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[Mar. 15th, 2006|11:34 pm]
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Whee. Gentoo 2006.0 is out (has been for a while it seems). It might actually recognise my sata controller now!

Decent linux distribution here I come!

[User Picture]From: thegom
2006-03-16 12:12 am (UTC)
Gentoo? Fuck that shit....... RAWK ON FC5!!! And its promised inclusion of the shiny, shiny openGL windowing madness we've all stained our pants playing with ;)
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[User Picture]From: ebel
2006-03-16 09:56 am (UTC)
There are 2 fancy Linux eye candy. Xgl and AIGLX. Xgl is the live CD we were playing with, and was made by Novell. AIGLX was made by Red Hat, and isn't as good. :P

However you can install Xgl on Gentoo and on Ubuntu. Gentoo though is made for people who want to do things the hard and difficult way. For example look at how short and simple the Ubuntu Xgl installation guide is. Now see how long and complex the Gentoo Xgl guide is. Damn gentoo ricer fan bois.
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[User Picture]From: tearsofzorro
2006-03-16 12:05 pm (UTC)
I think you're linking to the same document twice.

The only thing I can say in my defense is, if it ever breaks, I'll have a much better idea of what's broken and why.

By the way, given that I'm running SuSE 8.1 Pro, I consider Gentoo the easier way than trying to deal with this mongrel of rpms and source compilations. I want it so that it's easy to upgrade things like gtk without death, and for more control. I'm not a human, I'm a nerd and a masochist. Therefore I don't use Ubuntu (linux for humans) but Gentoo (linux for control-freak masochists). :c)
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[User Picture]From: ebel
2006-03-16 12:25 pm (UTC)
Damn you right. And I can't edit a comment. :(

Ubuntu Xgl howto
Gentoo Xgl howto
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[User Picture]From: ebel
2006-03-16 09:49 am (UTC)
Gentoo!! You ricer! Kubuntu for the win!
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[User Picture]From: tearsofzorro
2006-03-16 12:01 pm (UTC)
What's all this 'ricer' stuff about?

Reiser I'd understand, but ricer?

And is it just me or have you turned back to KDE? *grin* They always come back. Except Greg, but he's allowed.
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[User Picture]From: ebel
2006-03-16 12:24 pm (UTC)
Gentoo is for Ricers

I want to try KDE after reading this.
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[User Picture]From: tearsofzorro
2006-03-16 12:42 pm (UTC)
At least I admit I'm doing this out of perverse curiosity! And masochism.

To be honest, I'd prefer to do things the old-school gentoo way, not with this graphical installer crap that they're doing now. Just for reference, this is probably going to be a step before I hit onto some proper LFS distro, mainly because the gentoo project is moving further and further away from that.

Ok, reason why I'm going for this next. It's looking like the only package-based system I could stand after SuSE. Also, I've said I was migrating to this for nearly 2 years now, I'm going to do it some day dagnabbit, just to keep my word!

Then I'll probably ditch all I just said and try out open solaris. :)
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[User Picture]From: ebel
2006-03-16 12:48 pm (UTC)
I know what you mean. I tried Gentoo once. People who think it's fantastic (like people on that page, and Barry. :) ) are the ones I'm mocking. :)

And I remember burning you a Gentoo boot CD ages ago. :)
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[User Picture]From: tearsofzorro
2006-03-16 12:56 pm (UTC)
You know, one time I wanted to building a small linux system for myself from scratch?

The idea was that I'd take DirectFB and install it along with XDirectFB - an X server that used DirectFB libs - and sit blackbox on top of that.

The shiny thing is, that because of DFB and XDFB you could have properly transparent objects on screen, and could just use ctrl+mouse-wheel to affect its opacity.

Not so much of a problem since the X.org fork... or just before it. That sorta stuff is a lot more standard now.

But I so wanted to build a lightweight system like that.
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[User Picture]From: ebel
2006-03-16 01:32 pm (UTC)
Just to confirm, but you have tried the Kororaa Live CD right? It's a gentoo based livecd (*shudder*) that has Xgl installed along with many closed source graphics drivers. It has worked perfectly on many x86 machines we've tried it on in college.

If I was going to feck around with Linux, I'd try to take a copy of the RAM just as my desktop had loaded everything (ie just after log in) and save that to disk. booting would be nothing more than loading that ram disk.

Basically take the idea of initrd to the extreme,
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