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Why the Orange Box doesn't work. [Jan. 1st, 2008|01:39 am]
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Windows thwarts me so...

My god, you have not a single iota of an idea how annoying this is. Earlier in the year, we got a new computer. Moreover, it drives me to absolute distraction.

You see, what happens is, any time we try to play a .wmv file, windows dies in a magnificent, familiar and dreaded shade of blue. Unfortunately it doesn't last long enough for us to see the message before it reboots, but given that it's blue, it's bad. My dad blamed it on the nvidia card being bad. To be honest, I never found it to be a problem in linux, myself, but nonetheless wmvs bluescreened. I didn't concern myself much. Then I realised that a reincarnation of the problem existed: When I tried to go into 3d mode for the Orange Box, things went blue.

After some driver upgrading and playing, I thought I stumbled on the on a solution. After immediately upgrading the drivers, I managed to get into Windows Media player and play a wmv file repeatedly.

However, if I went back to it later, it would crash. I assumed it was something about a program seeing something "broken" and "repairing itself" back to a broken state. Turns out, not.

If I get it running before all the windows apps set themselves up after login, there's not a problem. If I load the movie before that, I can play it as often as I want, but after that phantom program loads, I'm dead. I thought I had it narrowed down to seamonkey loading, but sadly, it turned out not to be the problem. However, it got me to the end of level 0 on portal.

So the issues seem down to timing, if I get in before a certain time, it's not a problem, but after it is.

Unfortunately, it's difficult to get a centralised list of what activates at startup. We reinstall tomorrow.

Thus reinforcing my idea that if something dies in windows, you have no idea of what goes wrong and can be only fixed by reinstalling the whole thing. In all of the linux installations I've had, I've only had to install each one once. All the others could be recovered from.

Some day, one day, I'll get to play portal.
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From: ryangannon
2008-01-01 12:49 pm (UTC)
Which windows and do you have quicktime installed?
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[User Picture]From: tearsofzorro
2008-01-01 02:23 pm (UTC)
XP Pro, SP2. And yeah, I think we do, and it's a requirement for my oarents' spanish lessons.

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From: ryangannon
2008-01-01 08:38 pm (UTC)
Well it has to be a codec problem. Removing them all and any media players and installing better codec could help. If it were vista it'd be an easy fix. Try finding one of those minimalist codec packs.

The reason I asked about quicktime is the only thing I know that will kill vista is running second life without quicktime.
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[User Picture]From: tearsofzorro
2008-01-01 09:27 pm (UTC)
It's not a codec problem actually. Not from what I can tell...

If you read what I have above:
If I get it running before all the windows apps set themselves up after login, there's not a problem. If I load the movie before that, I can play it as often as I want, but after that phantom program loads, I'm dead.

That indicates it's a program problem.

In fact, since then, I got another user set up, and it could do wmvs and play games in 3d mode for a while. Then, after a few boots, the problem caught up with it.

I thought I could track down the problem by comparing process lists then, but there doesn't seem to be a real difference. And now that the problem's caught up to the test user, it's rendered that user useless. Grrr....
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